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	<title>Comments on: Wicked Campers slammed for safety standards on A Current Affair</title>
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		<title>By: scotty</title>
		<link>http://thumbrella.com.au/wicked-campers-slammed-for-safety-standards-on-a-current-affair-5303#comment-1866</link>
		<dc:creator>scotty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 03:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I`m Rick James, bitch!&quot; If only Dave Chappelle was in on this thread....

I agree that many of the points Fake Rick Schindler raised are valid(I`ve said something along the same lines before....) but can`t understand the use of the Real Ricks` name and the reference to God.....why?

If it`s any comfort, they say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, Rick.(Please, allow me to put my own foot in my mouth, you would-be identity thieves!)

Nevermind the delivery, I reckon I know why I`m in the industry and am happy to keep my ideals alive. For some, however, the first step to solving a problem is admitting you have one. Some could definitely do with a reality check. 

If you`re not striving to give our sensational backpackers the best possible Aussie  adventure, with all that entails, then you shouldn`t be interested in this forum. Debate on these pages should avoid insults and personal enmity and concentrate on finding solutions to the,really, quite minor quibbles and conundrums that face our industry and, by extension, our guests.

Let common sense rule and permit our Aussie sense of fair play to conquer all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I`m Rick James, bitch!&#8221; If only Dave Chappelle was in on this thread&#8230;.</p>
<p>I agree that many of the points Fake Rick Schindler raised are valid(I`ve said something along the same lines before&#8230;.) but can`t understand the use of the Real Ricks` name and the reference to God&#8230;..why?</p>
<p>If it`s any comfort, they say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, Rick.(Please, allow me to put my own foot in my mouth, you would-be identity thieves!)</p>
<p>Nevermind the delivery, I reckon I know why I`m in the industry and am happy to keep my ideals alive. For some, however, the first step to solving a problem is admitting you have one. Some could definitely do with a reality check. </p>
<p>If you`re not striving to give our sensational backpackers the best possible Aussie  adventure, with all that entails, then you shouldn`t be interested in this forum. Debate on these pages should avoid insults and personal enmity and concentrate on finding solutions to the,really, quite minor quibbles and conundrums that face our industry and, by extension, our guests.</p>
<p>Let common sense rule and permit our Aussie sense of fair play to conquer all.</p>
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		<title>By: greg cole</title>
		<link>http://thumbrella.com.au/wicked-campers-slammed-for-safety-standards-on-a-current-affair-5303#comment-1855</link>
		<dc:creator>greg cole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 23:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s or she is full of manure. They make totally nonsensical statements. And very broad statements that if true would see our industry in tatters.

There is no major problem, but there&#039;s a few major idiots. Credibility might be restored to both of you if you were willing to stamp your credentials om your posts. Otherwise - zip-it.

Yes I know. A bit harsh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s or she is full of manure. They make totally nonsensical statements. And very broad statements that if true would see our industry in tatters.</p>
<p>There is no major problem, but there&#8217;s a few major idiots. Credibility might be restored to both of you if you were willing to stamp your credentials om your posts. Otherwise &#8211; zip-it.</p>
<p>Yes I know. A bit harsh.</p>
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		<title>By: This is my real name</title>
		<link>http://thumbrella.com.au/wicked-campers-slammed-for-safety-standards-on-a-current-affair-5303#comment-1853</link>
		<dc:creator>This is my real name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 06:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that apart from signing with a fake name, the fake rick has made some good, valid points.  At least he&#039;s acknowledging there&#039;s a problem and is identifying what those problems may be (in his opinion).  No need to be so harsh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that apart from signing with a fake name, the fake rick has made some good, valid points.  At least he&#8217;s acknowledging there&#8217;s a problem and is identifying what those problems may be (in his opinion).  No need to be so harsh</p>
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		<title>By: greg cole</title>
		<link>http://thumbrella.com.au/wicked-campers-slammed-for-safety-standards-on-a-current-affair-5303#comment-1850</link>
		<dc:creator>greg cole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick, the Real Rick,

Don&#039;t worry. Some clear facts here

1. Its clear to all of us its not you. 
2. Its clear the person who wrote this is out of happy pills
3. It clear their comments are as much use as a cock flavoured lollypop
4. Its clear they may have dyslexia because they misspelt DOG as GOD
4. Its clear that they aren&#039;t clear about much at all

Yes, that&#039;s what we think about anonymous vitriol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick, the Real Rick,</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry. Some clear facts here</p>
<p>1. Its clear to all of us its not you.<br />
2. Its clear the person who wrote this is out of happy pills<br />
3. It clear their comments are as much use as a cock flavoured lollypop<br />
4. Its clear they may have dyslexia because they misspelt DOG as GOD<br />
4. Its clear that they aren&#8217;t clear about much at all</p>
<p>Yes, that&#8217;s what we think about anonymous vitriol.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Lane</title>
		<link>http://thumbrella.com.au/wicked-campers-slammed-for-safety-standards-on-a-current-affair-5303#comment-1840</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 22:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick Schindler has told us the comment posted under his name (28) was not him. 

Please refrain from posting comments under other people&#039;s names.

Thanks

Martin - Thumbrella</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick Schindler has told us the comment posted under his name (28) was not him. </p>
<p>Please refrain from posting comments under other people&#8217;s names.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Martin &#8211; Thumbrella</p>
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		<title>By: Rick schindler</title>
		<link>http://thumbrella.com.au/wicked-campers-slammed-for-safety-standards-on-a-current-affair-5303#comment-1839</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick schindler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 22:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Who Ever  posted under my name 
Was it your intention to try and get me off side with my fellow industry members?
Or were you trying to use my name   to discredit the industry that  I am proud of.

I suggest if you want to say something have the balls to put your name to it. 

Rick Schindler</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Who Ever  posted under my name<br />
Was it your intention to try and get me off side with my fellow industry members?<br />
Or were you trying to use my name   to discredit the industry that  I am proud of.</p>
<p>I suggest if you want to say something have the balls to put your name to it. </p>
<p>Rick Schindler</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://thumbrella.com.au/wicked-campers-slammed-for-safety-standards-on-a-current-affair-5303#comment-1837</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why shouldnt the govt have a say in what goes on in this dodgy industry? people are getting screwed, backpackers are getting conned. Someone needs to step in and not stop business, but make it honest and right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why shouldnt the govt have a say in what goes on in this dodgy industry? people are getting screwed, backpackers are getting conned. Someone needs to step in and not stop business, but make it honest and right.</p>
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		<title>By: Fake Rick Schindler</title>
		<link>http://thumbrella.com.au/wicked-campers-slammed-for-safety-standards-on-a-current-affair-5303#comment-1836</link>
		<dc:creator>Fake Rick Schindler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 10:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets summarise some basic facts and get to the core of all of this:

1. Some companies in the backpacking(tourism industry) DO NOT HAVE ANY STANDARDS!!
2. MOST TRAVEL AGENTS in the backpacking industry have poorly trained employees recommending products they know nothing about.
3. MOST TRAVEL AGENTS just book the cheapest and easiest product to sell as they believe this is the only way to make a sale and believe that most backpackers do not have the required finances to pay for higher quality products.
4. Our industry is going through a massive change and some of you will not be here in a year or two...
5. ...and some of us actually joined this industry for the right reasons NOT JUST TO SCREW EVERY CENT OUT OF A BACKPACKER!!!
6. SEE POINT 5. to appreciate why the industry is not the same as it was ten years ago!!
7. When was the last time that any of you actually talked to a Backpacker anyway!!!
8. Leave the govrnement out of all arguments because it is hard enough to make a dollar without including them in discussions so they can come up with more ways to make business impossible in this country...
9. Why don&#039;t you all admit that your standards are below par and try and improve your products, ideas, staff morale and for gods sake come up with some new ideas and stop copying each other like little school children...

Backpacking GOD!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets summarise some basic facts and get to the core of all of this:</p>
<p>1. Some companies in the backpacking(tourism industry) DO NOT HAVE ANY STANDARDS!!<br />
2. MOST TRAVEL AGENTS in the backpacking industry have poorly trained employees recommending products they know nothing about.<br />
3. MOST TRAVEL AGENTS just book the cheapest and easiest product to sell as they believe this is the only way to make a sale and believe that most backpackers do not have the required finances to pay for higher quality products.<br />
4. Our industry is going through a massive change and some of you will not be here in a year or two&#8230;<br />
5. &#8230;and some of us actually joined this industry for the right reasons NOT JUST TO SCREW EVERY CENT OUT OF A BACKPACKER!!!<br />
6. SEE POINT 5. to appreciate why the industry is not the same as it was ten years ago!!<br />
7. When was the last time that any of you actually talked to a Backpacker anyway!!!<br />
8. Leave the govrnement out of all arguments because it is hard enough to make a dollar without including them in discussions so they can come up with more ways to make business impossible in this country&#8230;<br />
9. Why don&#8217;t you all admit that your standards are below par and try and improve your products, ideas, staff morale and for gods sake come up with some new ideas and stop copying each other like little school children&#8230;</p>
<p>Backpacking GOD!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Rose</title>
		<link>http://thumbrella.com.au/wicked-campers-slammed-for-safety-standards-on-a-current-affair-5303#comment-1816</link>
		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 20:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comment Kelly, Why would it be the drivers responibility if the van is faulty? Why do hirers pay wicked insurance money in case of accidents? alot more to this story that needs to be aired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment Kelly, Why would it be the drivers responibility if the van is faulty? Why do hirers pay wicked insurance money in case of accidents? alot more to this story that needs to be aired.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
		<link>http://thumbrella.com.au/wicked-campers-slammed-for-safety-standards-on-a-current-affair-5303#comment-1814</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 11:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rose, On the Wicked website it does say the driver is responsible for ALL accidents...Did your son get the details of the driver? Maybe reimbursement can be collected through that means</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rose, On the Wicked website it does say the driver is responsible for ALL accidents&#8230;Did your son get the details of the driver? Maybe reimbursement can be collected through that means</p>
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		<title>By: HB</title>
		<link>http://thumbrella.com.au/wicked-campers-slammed-for-safety-standards-on-a-current-affair-5303#comment-1796</link>
		<dc:creator>HB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 03:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Webb: 
&gt;&gt; All checks will be carried out by our qualified mechanics.&lt;&lt;

Yeah, the same guys who did it last week and the week before !!

(The rest of this post has been edited for legal reasons)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Webb:<br />
&gt;&gt; All checks will be carried out by our qualified mechanics.&lt;&lt;</p>
<p>Yeah, the same guys who did it last week and the week before !!</p>
<p>(The rest of this post has been edited for legal reasons)</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://thumbrella.com.au/wicked-campers-slammed-for-safety-standards-on-a-current-affair-5303#comment-1778</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 04:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like Jucy and Travellers Auto are setting up Wicked for a fall.  Hope they are looked into.

Jealosy is a terrible thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like Jucy and Travellers Auto are setting up Wicked for a fall.  Hope they are looked into.</p>
<p>Jealosy is a terrible thing.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://thumbrella.com.au/wicked-campers-slammed-for-safety-standards-on-a-current-affair-5303#comment-1775</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 00:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wicked .....................
Reading the news on ninemsn.com this morning (Sunday), I was shocked to see what was happening in Queensland with only 4 vehicles been tested as road worthy in the wicked fleet in this State.  I think Wicked Director John Webb needs to have a serious look at his product and operational system&#039;s.  

This is the wake up calls that other prominent members of our industry have been discussing in this forum.  How has wicked managed to have so many vehicles on the roads in Queensland with so many defects? is pressure going to be placed on them nation wide to go through the same audit with all their vehicles?  If the vehicles are un roadworthy are the insurance claims worth the paper they are written on?  So many questions so little answers

I know I will be instigating two things immediately
NOT selling their product until we can get answers
DISCUSSIONS with local tourism bodies and government departments to find out if they are doing full audits on EVERY wicked vehicle that enters our State</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wicked &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
Reading the news on ninemsn.com this morning (Sunday), I was shocked to see what was happening in Queensland with only 4 vehicles been tested as road worthy in the wicked fleet in this State.  I think Wicked Director John Webb needs to have a serious look at his product and operational system&#8217;s.  </p>
<p>This is the wake up calls that other prominent members of our industry have been discussing in this forum.  How has wicked managed to have so many vehicles on the roads in Queensland with so many defects? is pressure going to be placed on them nation wide to go through the same audit with all their vehicles?  If the vehicles are un roadworthy are the insurance claims worth the paper they are written on?  So many questions so little answers</p>
<p>I know I will be instigating two things immediately<br />
NOT selling their product until we can get answers<br />
DISCUSSIONS with local tourism bodies and government departments to find out if they are doing full audits on EVERY wicked vehicle that enters our State</p>
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		<title>By: rose</title>
		<link>http://thumbrella.com.au/wicked-campers-slammed-for-safety-standards-on-a-current-affair-5303#comment-1653</link>
		<dc:creator>rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 03:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Wicked Campers&quot; just the name makes me cringe. 

If anyone was really listening to the story ACA gave the manager of Wicked a chance to comment on their story, he was overseas! my son was involved in an accident with a wicked van, on a straight strech of highway. the accident was horrific, his car is unrepairable, yet wicked have refused to pay. no one from Wicked has ever returned our calls, nor have they returned our emails, they contacted us through a soliicitor to tell us they were not paying for anything! so Mr Manager talk to me, let me know how that works? This happened on the 14th Feb 2009. You owe us and everyone else alot of answers, by the way how do you sleep at night? Mr manager?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Wicked Campers&#8221; just the name makes me cringe. </p>
<p>If anyone was really listening to the story ACA gave the manager of Wicked a chance to comment on their story, he was overseas! my son was involved in an accident with a wicked van, on a straight strech of highway. the accident was horrific, his car is unrepairable, yet wicked have refused to pay. no one from Wicked has ever returned our calls, nor have they returned our emails, they contacted us through a soliicitor to tell us they were not paying for anything! so Mr Manager talk to me, let me know how that works? This happened on the 14th Feb 2009. You owe us and everyone else alot of answers, by the way how do you sleep at night? Mr manager?</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://thumbrella.com.au/wicked-campers-slammed-for-safety-standards-on-a-current-affair-5303#comment-1473</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having until recently, been very involved within this market segment, I am actually relieved that this expose&#039; has come to light, in fact, it is long overdue.

Yes.  The program that bought this to our (and the world&#039;s) attention can be deemed as sensationalist and heavily weighted toward the consumer, however that is not to say that what it has uncovered was a beat up, set up etc.  As we are all aware, it is nigh on impossible to ensure that EVERY vehicle you possess in your fleet is without a doubt, fully compliant or roadworthy all of the time.  However, it is easy to reduce your exposure by incorporating safety into your company policy, preventative measures and putting them into action.  And i&#039;m more than aware that many operators already give this the attention it deserves.

It needs to be said that it is ignorant and condescending to use examples of trivial faults in responses, such as blown bulbs, inoperable windscreen washers or a broken exhaust rubber to justify your problem of having unroadworthy vehicles with major defects as shown in this program.  Doing so just makes you (and everyone else) look bad.

I completely agree with Boyd&#039;s statement, in that self-regulating could be the answer that helps create a better market and it makes sense that you could all start working together on this now, rather than have it imposed by a government agency-along with the red tape that would be associated with it.  Seriously, do you owners want the cost of that?  Some of you are probably well aware of the record keeping required of motor dealers, and the fines/penalties that go along with failure to keep such in good standing, you don&#039;t want that to happen. 

And it&#039;s not just the vehicles that are the problem here.  Deeper issues exist with driver training and education (think Fraser Island) and how to get that message across to those who do undertake a self-drive adventure...i&#039;ve seen many a hirer come a cropper from sheer stupidity and ignorance on their part, no matter what you say to them before they take possession.

Looking forward, should you all begin to work together toward building an even better industry, will leave those with safety foremost still around to enjoy the success of their businesses in the coming years, rather than cowboys simply in it for a quick buck and a bit of fame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having until recently, been very involved within this market segment, I am actually relieved that this expose&#8217; has come to light, in fact, it is long overdue.</p>
<p>Yes.  The program that bought this to our (and the world&#8217;s) attention can be deemed as sensationalist and heavily weighted toward the consumer, however that is not to say that what it has uncovered was a beat up, set up etc.  As we are all aware, it is nigh on impossible to ensure that EVERY vehicle you possess in your fleet is without a doubt, fully compliant or roadworthy all of the time.  However, it is easy to reduce your exposure by incorporating safety into your company policy, preventative measures and putting them into action.  And i&#8217;m more than aware that many operators already give this the attention it deserves.</p>
<p>It needs to be said that it is ignorant and condescending to use examples of trivial faults in responses, such as blown bulbs, inoperable windscreen washers or a broken exhaust rubber to justify your problem of having unroadworthy vehicles with major defects as shown in this program.  Doing so just makes you (and everyone else) look bad.</p>
<p>I completely agree with Boyd&#8217;s statement, in that self-regulating could be the answer that helps create a better market and it makes sense that you could all start working together on this now, rather than have it imposed by a government agency-along with the red tape that would be associated with it.  Seriously, do you owners want the cost of that?  Some of you are probably well aware of the record keeping required of motor dealers, and the fines/penalties that go along with failure to keep such in good standing, you don&#8217;t want that to happen. </p>
<p>And it&#8217;s not just the vehicles that are the problem here.  Deeper issues exist with driver training and education (think Fraser Island) and how to get that message across to those who do undertake a self-drive adventure&#8230;i&#8217;ve seen many a hirer come a cropper from sheer stupidity and ignorance on their part, no matter what you say to them before they take possession.</p>
<p>Looking forward, should you all begin to work together toward building an even better industry, will leave those with safety foremost still around to enjoy the success of their businesses in the coming years, rather than cowboys simply in it for a quick buck and a bit of fame.</p>
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